Rev. Dr. Nichole Smith speaks to us virtually via a message recorded during the UUA General Assembly worship service held in Baltimore on June 22, 2025. In addition to her work at Meadville Lombard Theological School, Rev. Kirk is currently the Program Minister (part-time) at All Souls Unitarian Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma, one of the largest UU churches in the world with over two thousand members.

If you wish to see the sermon, watch the video from the UUA website, Sunday morning service, Her sermon starts at the 1:17:35 mark.